V3.51 Clone-client

snoopy81 · Post by **snoopy81** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:39 pm

As the 3.51 clone coding improves, it's more tedious to find what's still not OK.

Of course we tested the client's features, but it seems that we'll never catch each small difference between v2.20 and v3.51.
That's the reason we think about releasing a compiled beta version. So everybody could test it, and explain the differences they find. Maybe we still miss some important feature!

We'll release the exe, as soon as the last Heldenian functions will be OK.

Dax · Post by **Dax** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:19 pm

And who exactly do you think will be running your under coded beta client looking for every small detail? You'd be better off doing your own testing or running a closed beta, you'll get far more useful input.

Shetar · Post by **Shetar** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:18 pm

And leave the Heldenian functions
1. They don't work server sided
2. Nobody uses them (hbint, hbusa and even hbnemesis aren't holding them because of the lack of players and interest.)

diuuude · Post by **diuuude** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:09 pm

Shetar wrote:And leave the Heldenian functions
1. They don't work server sided
2. Nobody uses them (hbint, hbusa and even hbnemesis aren't holding them because of the lack of players and interest.)

LOL !!

Heldenian works on Equilibrium project since... so long time ago that i can't remember ! If you're not able to code it, you have to know that skilled peoples did it long time ago...

Nobody uses them ? :huh: ask some server owners around here and they'd tell you that they have many peoples online when they play heldenian events.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Daxan00b)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And who exactly do you think will be running your under coded beta client looking for every small detail? You'd be better off doing your own testing or running a closed beta, you'll get far more useful input.[/quote]
I just asked 5 peoples and they answered that they would be happy to try it out and repport any bug / missing feature (Locobans, Rage...).

What about the under coded beta client ?

You're really a funny kind of thing Dax (sry but i won't use a word like "person" or "guy" for you...). You think you can code a better one using your 31337 CoDiNg SkIlLs ? So just do it and shut the fuck up please, i never seen any client related code coming from you and i dare to hope that you're not gonna tell us once again about the leet client you coded with Aryes, Cleroth and all the really skilled peoples... We never seen anything related to it and when i requested help from you about NPC's Sprites Loading your leet coding skills were as useful as my GrandMa's !!

You were crying to me on msn, and asked an infinite number of times to join our team... and now you're pissing our work off ?

You can go to hell and die Dax.

I'll just tell you a last thing so that you would be a little less stunned and idiot while going to go to bed this evening :
We only miss Gail's dialogBoxs... it's really easy to code but if we miss it that's only MY COMPUTER'S fault, my hard drive burned last week end and i have to code it again... that's all :-p

Shetar · Post by **Shetar** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:20 pm

If you're not able to code it, you have to know that skilled peoples did it long time ago...

Not coding it doesn't has a single thing to do with my skills?

I personally find Heldenian total crap, that's me but that explains why I ain't coding it, but instead coding a 3.51 client for Unadvised.. Hmm? :rolleyes:

Friends of mine told me it themselfs, Heldenian isn't played much. Maybe on other servers though.. but you still need alot of people for it, and I can't think of a server with alot of people hosting Heldenian? <_<

locobans · Post by **locobans** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:20 pm

Honestly as I told them I will try it out and report any bugs I might find with it.

And related to heldenian, well I haven't played one yet...and if I had a change to add it to my server I would of..

~Locobans

snoopy81 · Post by **snoopy81** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:34 pm

Heldenian is not the point here.

We'll include as much 3.51 features as we can. And will not include things we are not able to. (there is a couple of identifyed functions about witch we have no clue).
Heldenian has been included because it's within our skill to include. (As a matter of fact, client side is easyer and faster included than server side. )

We already fixed some minor bugs from 3.51, and this exe's release will show us the extend of the job yet to be done.

Dax · Post by **Dax** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:31 am

diuuumbShit wrote: And who exactly do you think will be running your under coded beta client looking for every small detail? You'd be better off doing your own testing or running a closed beta, you'll get far more useful input.

I just asked 5 peoples and they answered that they would be happy to try it out and repport any bug / missing feature (Locobans, Rage...).

What about the under coded beta client ?

You're really a funny kind of thing Dax (sry but i won't use a word like "person" or "guy" for you...). You think you can code a better one using your 31337 CoDiNg SkIlLs ? So just do it and shut the fuck up please, i never seen any client related code coming from you and i dare to hope that you're not gonna tell us once again about the leet client you coded with Aryes, Cleroth and all the really skilled peoples... We never seen anything related to it and when i requested help from you about NPC's Sprites Loading your leet coding skills were as useful as my GrandMa's !!

You were crying to me on msn, and asked an infinite number of times to join our team... and now you're pissing our work off ?

You can go to hell and die Dax.

I'll just tell you a last thing so that you would be a little less stunned and idiot while going to go to bed this evening :
We only miss Gail's dialogBoxs... it's really easy to code but if we miss it that's only MY COMPUTER'S fault, my hard drive burned last week end and i have to code it again... that's all :-p [/quote]
I'm sorry where did i say i was going to code a 1337 client to beat yours? And those 5 people you asked may aswell be called 'closed beta' right? Since they didn't come from this topic and I assume they were asked in a private conversation. I was interested in joining your project to help and the offer was still standing before you decided to take everything i posted as an insult. I'm not here to shit on your work or anything like that, i was just saying how many avid testers are you expecting to find on outpost. Do what you've been doing and ask people on your MSN.

[EDIT] You had display bugs with your NPC and all you showed me was the loading code! wewt!

Don't talk down to me, you havn't earnt it. Plus it only provokes replies such as these. We could continue if you'd like but I think I speak for most of outpost when I say these forums would be much nicer without a thread full of these.

snoopy81 · Post by **snoopy81** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:58 am

As scheduled I rease the compiled version of our work. It's not complete, and some things are still pending, or missing.
By trying it and telling us what is missing and/or wrong, or buggy, you'll help us to improve the code.

<a href='http://sn81.free.fr/release/release_02apr.zip' target='_blank'>Link to the exe</a>

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This is suposed to be a 3.51 near-clone, including all
3.51 functionalities.
Of course there may be some visual differences, the aim
is to have the same functions not the exact details, and to
remove some bugs if we can.

The aim of this release, a compiled client, is to allow
everybody to have a look and maybe tell us what is still
missing, or bad. As our testing server is far from the standard
3.51, we may miss many things...
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02 apr version:
351<->clone known differences:
- Missing Druncncity effects
- Vertical blue lines on Abaddon map
- Missing Gail dialog (pending)
- Missing Heldenian finished dialog (pending)
- Use LOGIN.CFG to read your IP & port
- Use LOGIN.CFG to prevent router issues
- Added AccountCreation.
- Exe is much bigger
- No need for cximage.dll

Dshaked · Post by **Dshaked** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:45 pm

Source plz

:D?

Drazz · Post by **Drazz** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:17 pm

mmm this client dosnt works for me, i have always this error message "world is not active".

This "clone" works with any server or what?

snoopy81 · Post by **snoopy81** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:55 pm

Source plz ?

We'll think about releasing the sources after debuging, and reaching a near 351-clone level.

This "clone" works with any server or what?

The server is suposed to be named "WS1", as standard HB.
I think the server you tryed to connect uses another name.

Shetar · Post by **Shetar** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:18 pm

Did you guys fix trade? If so, spare me some time and post the item draw x,y's here, that saves me some time.

Sorry, getting lazy already

Drazz · Post by **Drazz** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:03 pm

snoopy81 wrote:
Source plz ?
We'll think about releasing the sources after debuging, and reaching a near 351-clone level.

This "clone" works with any server or what?
The server is suposed to be named "WS1", as standard HB.
I think the server you tryed to connect uses another name.

Oh, ok, thanks!

I was testing Slate-Window and AncientTablets, the message with berzerk tablet was wrong (must be "Berserk Magic Casted!"), also in official client 3.51 i cannot use Slates in HRampart/BtField (with your client i can)

I love your work

Post by **binarydata** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:13 pm

wow this client is pretty useless without src