WLserver source

[Dax]

hb server files are pretty much dead.. if ur a hobby developer then dont bother taking any tasks on with it.. coders such as hypno are leading the server development anyway.. if u want a project why not start a client.. ansee + anmap sources are out.. they read/display sprites/maps so thats prolly the best thing to get a head start on before hypno/aryes/jimmy or some other developer jumps on em.

[DarkieDuck]

no manager.cpp here

must be something they made for 3.8 only

[Jaap]

hb server files are pretty much dead.. if ur a hobby developer then dont bother taking any tasks on with it.. coders such as hypno are leading the server development anyway.. if u want a project why not start a client.. ansee + anmap sources are out.. they read/display sprites/maps so thats prolly the best thing to get a head start on before hypno/aryes/jimmy or some other developer jumps on em.

hb server files are dead? you base this on your personal opinion? there are still many active coders and people actively trying to achieve newer version source.

also, you state hypno being "server developer leader". wtf does that even mean?!

and why start a client project when you can just unpack/decrypt/decode the ones siementech give away on their websites?

[Jaap]

no such code in the code i got

you might want to get a newer version than the 2.24 mls?

[SexyBitch]

no such code in the code i got

you might want to get a newer version than the 2.24 mls?

lol DarkieDuck has more then you will ever know

[Jaap]

no such code in the code i got

you might want to get a newer version than the 2.24 mls?

lol DarkieDuck has more then you will ever know

exactly, dd MIGHT have more, but he doesn't do anything with it. therefor, in the eyes of the world he has nothing.

dd is "just another guy that claims to have real files" in my eyes. loserrr

[edit]oh wait, i only saw ONE thing though; he got the db content from hb inter when it was 2.24. but yea, who cares about hb inter?[/edit]

[DarkieDuck]

+ the 2 .sql update files for later on.

most ppl here know what i got , and i do got ml 2.24+
3.7 for example

and there is no manager.cpp and no such coding style

come on its made by koreans , there coding style is like a maze

[edit]
by really proving that u got the ML
post the start of DBClass.cpp
its only in SQL server versions
[/edit]

[Jaap]

+ the 2 .sql update files for later on.

most ppl here know what i got , and i do got ml 2.24+
3.7 for example

and there is no manager.cpp and no such coding style

come on its made by koreans , there coding style is like a maze

[edit]
by really proving that u got the ML
post the start of DBClass.cpp
its only in SQL server versions
[/edit]

you are telling me my stuff is wrong
i am telling you your stuff is wrong

who can tell who is right?

[Jaap]

basically it's like this:

at a certain point in time, 2.03 was released to the world. who that person was is irrelevant. however, the 2.03 version itself is questionable. who can tell these are the REAL files? no one! well, you can CLAIM they are real, but there is no way to actually prove it unless you visit siementech themselves (which none of us will be able to). if, and only if, siementech uses exactly the same source, it is considered real files.

i, for one, say that the 2.03 source that was release is an emulation of the original siementech server made by someone, claiming it to be the real files. and saying "but these files are have all the functionality of helbreath" is not a valid argument, since one can code a complete emulation (especially when 2.03 was out, there werent as many features).

the coding style of the source just contributes to this assumption. it looks like it is build by a bedroom coder. there is minor OO (without programming by contract, and so on), but that's it. the design per server (ml, wl, gate, game) is very very bad. and saying "siementech are just students who made a game" is not true. siementech is a company that handles their projects with people that actually have degrees in the field of software engineering.

also another interesting fact: the ones that claim to have real files, never show,use or release them anyway. those persons are either nerds that want attention from others or they are simply lying.

you also say: most ppl here know what i got. i bet most ppl here have never seen anything you claim to have. so, why is that? you like to stand above everyone with unreal source or what?

[example:
some ppl believe a downloaded hbx source changed to V3.81 are the REAL files. ppl that want something, believe something too quick. that is know a fact[/example]

in the end however, it doesnt make a difference if something is real or not. personally, if i look the "real" files i awe and tend to get rid of the slow mass. coders like hypno just add more useless functionality to it that makes it even slower and less efficient (however, it does the job)

[Jaap]

oh another thing,

you never visit outpost (i believe you went away for a while?)
but, now that someone posted a topic about wl source, you are back all of sudden.
that is also suspicious. why are you here? to showoff you have the "real" thing? or are you here because you are also after the REAL thing...

[DarkieDuck]

stop talking around it

post the 1st part of DBClass.cpp (which u can use to find the DB layout aswell)

[Slayer]

Jaap, don't shit so much. 2.03 was released quite soon after start of hbint. Unlike the WoW emu's as binary told me they could make in a very short time, helbreath doesn't have quest databases, item databases etc. that much as in wow. Second is, no-one non-siemtech knew how the files worked, and that there was a gate, main, world and HG server. All people with real files claim to have these 4 files, wich would mean real files also have these four programs with those names.
Two more things.. hypno > you, wich would make you a useless noob.
Last is..I didn't see any release of 3.8 yet on hbss..
Stop spreading bullshit, more people that DIDN'T fcking know eachother found out about the FTP and said they were real, all with the same files, wich would mean that according to your fucking bullshit siementech spread an emulator of their own files?

[SexyBitch]

basically it's like this:

at a certain point in time, 2.03 was released to the world. who that person was is irrelevant. however, the 2.03 version itself is questionable. who can tell these are the REAL files? no one! well, you can CLAIM they are real, but there is no way to actually prove it unless you visit siementech themselves (which none of us will be able to). if, and only if, siementech uses exactly the same source, it is considered real files.

i, for one, say that the 2.03 source that was release is an emulation of the original siementech server made by someone, claiming it to be the real files. and saying "but these files are have all the functionality of helbreath" is not a valid argument, since one can code a complete emulation (especially when 2.03 was out, there werent as many features).

the coding style of the source just contributes to this  assumption. it looks like it is build by a bedroom coder. there is minor OO (without programming by contract, and so on), but that's it. the design per server (ml, wl, gate, game) is very very bad. and saying "siementech are just students who made a game" is not true. siementech is a company that handles their projects with people that actually have degrees in the field of software engineering.

also another interesting fact: the ones that claim to have real files, never show,use or release them anyway. those persons are either nerds that want attention from others or they are simply lying.

you also say: most ppl here know what i got. i bet most ppl here have never seen anything you claim to have. so, why is that? you like to stand above everyone with unreal source or what?

[example:
some ppl believe a downloaded hbx source changed to V3.81 are the REAL files. ppl that want something, believe something too quick. that is know a fact[/example]

in the end however, it doesnt make a difference if something is real or not. personally, if i look the "real" files i awe and tend to get rid of the slow mass. coders like hypno just add more useless functionality to it that makes it even slower and less efficient (however, it does the job)

for someone thats post count is so low to outpost which we know has been around a long time in the world of hb that makes me think to.

one thing we can say about DD is that he dont have to hide behind a nick to hide his real identity.

the next thing is why should we post out real files this would do alot of harm to hb in the long run

i know i an running real files with MSSQL running yes MSSQL not mysql.

oh yes and if you have not got nothing to hide with your files which you say you are going to release them show what DD has asked lets see what your really saying

[Jaap]

I'm just here to fire up some discussion in this element. You (especially NeukenInDeKeuken) bring up some nice elements.

Firstly, who is Hypno? What does he do for a living? Is he a "bedroom coder"?

Secondly, yea I admit I do not have real files and I never hacked Siementech. I don't want to either. Really, why would I? I've got my own servers for quite some time now, I coded them myself and they work great. I've constructed them by professional design, which is what I do for a living.

The third issue brought up is "the next thing is why should we post out real files this would do alot of harm to hb in the long run".. that's true and you know why? Look at this: what is the difference between these two things:

real files or 100% working emulated files

I'll tell you:

1) Real files are illegal (although Siementech doesn't care about some US/EU guys).
2) Real files have MAJOR design issues.
3) Real files lack in performance and stability (it's ok for a small private server though).

Emulated servers can fix these problems:

1) Emulated files are legal
2) Emulated files are designed the way you want them to be (efficient, fast, easy?)
3) Emulated files can outperform a real server easily

Conclusion: yes releasing the real files DOES harm Helbreath. It only makes it worse.

Allright, continue posting!

Ohyeah: "for someone thats post count is so low to outpost which we know has been around a long time in the world of hb that makes me think to" -- Yea, I'm here becuz of this topic as well

[DarkieDuck]

still havent seen a DBClass.cpp

oh and emulation is illegal aswell